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Discussion in 'Beetle News' started by Olly_K, Nov 24, 2007.
haha spot on paul
The irony is in profile the 2012 Beetle is very similar to a proper Aircooled bug, so that dog pic applies to them as well
IMHO the 2012 is more in the spirit of a proper bug as there are a lot more retro touches to it. And to drive it's world's apart from the NB, it's far smoother, quieter, handles better and the modern engine line up is superb.
a load of bugs..and a pt cruiser
This is a great way to make new members with a 2012 on Bug feel very welcome
It's banter. It's not aimed at any ones car in particular. We don't want the site to be full of stiffs either
Exactly. Both ages have their followers and foibles.
But there will always be 'mark banter' in any car forum.
'Yours is old and **** and full of rust'
'But yours is new, fat and drives like a barge'
It has to be done
nothing personal...there will always be banter as there is in golfs of the different ages and between air cooled and watercooled bugs..there a totally different car
No offence taken, this is Beetle nr 9 for me (plus 2 Aircooled bugs, and a T4) the 2012 car is much better dynamically in every way, smoother, quieter, much more refined, far better chassis, proper 21st century gadgets, much much better engines, 6sp gearbox, decent sized boot, etc etc.
Front and side front profile better than the old shape bug imho, the rear old shape bug much better.
Profile wise it's far more like a proper bug than a NB is.
Oh and the roofs don't rust, you can jack em up on the sills and the wings are made of steel like a real bug
Nah, looks like a Beetle that ran into a Golf GTI parts shed.
The retro editions are contrived, overpriced and it is styled way too heavy. The original NB was a true icon. These are like the Mk4 Golf to the Mk2.
Overweight, clumsy and a bit clinical. Designed to appeal to Mk7 GTI, Audi TT, new MINI, BMW and Boxster owners.
It's a car designed for people who wish they had more personality and that is how it should have been marketed. Unfortunately VW pushed it at the kind of ppl who owned original bugs and NB's and most of us don't seem to get it.
If I wanted a Golf GTI I would have bought one FFS!
Don't forget the poor rear legroom. If the driver is over 6' tall, you get forget anyone using the seat behind.
To be honest the sales figures say it all, I can drive for days without seeing a single new model on the road.
I have never been so disappointed with a test drive. I was ready to place an order, but just walked away
We traded in our 2001 NB Auto for a 2013 NNB Convertible DSG. and as much as we loved our NB ( we had it for over 5 years ) the latest Beetle is streets ahead for comfort and ride quality,and being a diesel the VED is far cheaper and hopefully, general running costs will be lower as well.
I've just come back from four days in Germany. I initially thought I would see a good number of the 2012+ Beetles on the road. The sad truth is that apart from the E-Bugster concept, that was on the VW stand at the Techno Classica show in Essen, I did not see one single example of the car on over 500 miles of roads, in either Germany or Holland. I've read that the sales figures in most other European countries are also depressingly poor.
Whatever VW say about making the new Beetle appeal to men as well as women, the sad truth is that the car hardly appeals to anyone at all For the first time in many years, VW have produced a flop. I'm willing to bet now, that this will be final reimagined Beetle.
The major issue with it imho, isn't the styling or how it drives, it's the price!
In reality it's an expensive car, the original NB was much cheaper!
And I think it's America where the Beetles market is most important, they don't get the Scirocco over there so the Beetle is aimed as their Scirocco, and afaik it's selling well over there as long as that continues they will continue to make it.
Yes they are expensive .But if you buy pre registered or second hand there are bargains to be had.
Just bought a lovely deep black convertible, drives like a dream, gorgeous car thoroughly recommend !
Saw a gorgeous 13 plate 70S convertible in Burford last weekend...bronze coloured, with tan top and interior. A real stunner. There is an identical one on Fleabay at the moment for a shade under £20k... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2013-13-V...8803473?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item2a3e986e11 Serious want.
IMHO when I went to see the car launch I was pleased that they chose to keep some elements of the original beetle mixing it with the modern but after seeing them up close and parked up next to mine I think if given a choice I would choose the original NB . The problem I have is the size and the price of the NNB the original air cooled was designed to be affordable for the average bloke but has turned out to be an expensive commodity and also the size of it ,its not exactly small it even makes the NB look slim .I would hate to think that this will turn out to be the last hooray for the beetle if sales are not too good but maybe get revised and VW making the beetle a more affordable and more compact like it was designed for .