2.0 - Any good??

[james_19742000]

Hi John,

Have been reading through the posts etc here on the DNA forum, and we have the 2.0, fast enough etc for my wife as she drives it 80% of the time, but it has flat spots and there must be a bit more power in it that could be unleashed?

So what would a DNA tune do for it? And are we talking megabucks, or reasonable cost??

Just wondering whether to put it on the list of things to do with the Bug over the next few months???

I know its not Turbo so it wont be like unleasing a crazed animal but will it perform better and what about MPG???

I am in Devon, and I have read about you just having the ECU, is it easy for someone like me with very limited skills to remove and have you do it then send it back???

Thanks James.

[Graham]

The 2.0 isn`t that bad. You`re never going to break any land speed records but it`s ok for what it is.
Fuel consumption isn`t the best and some can use oil (although ours doesn`t :p ) but for general cruising around I reckon it`s pretty good.
IIRC John can unleash a couple more bhp but as cabs are for cruising I`ve not bothered with ours :laughing:

[John@DNA]

Hi James,

Yeah there is a few horses you can unleash, only a few but like you say the OEM software does have the odd flatspot, these can be tidied up and throttle response improved as well. MPG can improve slightly too, but like you say without a turbo it's only minor, these still qualify for the evvo discount where I do them for just £150 and I can email instructions of how to do this by post as well :)

Cheers,

John

[Mikaela]

Its lovely, has a nice little grunt which anyone appreciates.

[Nighttrain1974]

Mine will be getting done at some point as well, want more low down pull really.

[james_19742000]

Hi James,

Yeah there is a few horses you can unleash, only a few but like you say the OEM software does have the odd flatspot, these can be tidied up and throttle response improved as well. MPG can improve slightly too, but like you say without a turbo it's only minor, these still qualify for the evvo discount where I do them for just £150 and I can email instructions of how to do this by post as well :)

Cheers,

John

Cheers John, many thanks for that, its on the list of jobs to be done then :D its mainly that whilst it is generally fine, it is just a bid dead when you really want the power, overtaking etc, you put your foot down and its like 'hello, anything there......' so presume that sort of thing could be improved, mainly a more even spread of power is whats needed :laughing:

Just seen your 'how to' on taking the ECU out, looks like even someone like me might be able to do that!! :-)

Many thanks for the reply and at that price it seems excellent value!

James

[james_19742000]

Its lovely, has a nice little grunt which anyone appreciates.

Does it! Sounds interesting! Are they generally just 'better' are they?

[albionfc*]

I have a 2.0 , oil every 1000 drinks petrol but but but its done 153 and touch wood still going :laughing:

[T1KARMANN]

i had my 2.0 done and its a bit better

[raze1303]

these still qualify for the evvo discount where I do them for just £150 :)
Cheers,
John

If I brought the Bug down to Stratford for a day trip,could you do for that price,(and in a day?)

Mine will be getting done at some point as well, want more low down pull really.

Really? I quite often set off from the lights in 2nd :laughing:

[T1KARMANN]

john done mine while i waited and it was dam cold

[John@DNA]

Moving into a nice warm unit soon :)

[Graham]

Moving into a nice warm unit soon :)


You really should have bought a house :laughing:

[John@DNA]

You really should have bought a house :laughing:

That's happening a month after in September/October!!!

[T1KARMANN]

That's happening a month after in September/October!!!

next to the unit i bet :laughing:

[John@DNA]

Nope the unit is in with a current race preparation team :)

[Silverthang]

So exactly how much more could I get out of a cab if its possible to get better fuel and performance :confused:

[raze1303]

So exactly how much more could I get out of a cab if its possible to get better fuel and performance :confused:

I'm guessing Yep,but not at the same time:p

I believe its more about a smoother delivery of torque for a 2.0L

[Nighttrain1974]

I'm guessing Yep,but not at the same time:p

I believe its more about a smoother delivery of torque for a 2.0L

Yep, that's what i've been told and exactly why i'm going to see John at some point.

[John@DNA]

So exactly how much more could I get out of a cab if its possible to get better fuel and performance :confused:

Taken from the new website we're putting up soon, note for now the Evvo £150 discount will still stand :)

Model Variant Orignal BHP Price DNA Tuning Performance
Beetle 1.8 T 150 BHP £299 Stage 1: ECU Remap +45 BHP +50 Nm Torque
Beetle 1.9 TDi 115 BHP £299 Stage 1: ECU Remap +30 BHP +50 Nm Torque
Beetle 1.9 TDi 130 BHP £299 Stage 1: ECU Remap +30 BHP +55 Nm Torque
Beetle 1.9 TDi 90 BHP £299 Stage 1: ECU Remap +28 BHP +50 Nm Torque
Beetle 2.0 115 BHP £299 Stage 1: ECU Remap +14 BHP +20 Nm Torque
Beetle 2.3 V5 170 BHP £299 Stage 1: ECU Remap +17 BHP +20 Nm Torque

[John@DNA]

I'm guessing Yep,but not at the same time:p

I believe its more about a smoother delivery of torque for a 2.0L

Yeah it's not just about performance figures at the top end, I also try to make the car smoother throughout :)

[raze1303]

Will have to pop down and see you in the next few months

[Martin_Keeton]

Taken from the new website we're putting up soon, note for now the Evvo £150 discount will still stand :)

Model Variant Orignal BHP Price DNA Tuning Performance
Beetle 1.8 T 150 BHP £299 Stage 1: ECU Remap +45 BHP +50 Nm Torque
Beetle 1.9 TDi 115 BHP £299 Stage 1: ECU Remap +30 BHP +50 Nm Torque
Beetle 1.9 TDi 130 BHP £299 Stage 1: ECU Remap +30 BHP +55 Nm Torque
Beetle 1.9 TDi 90 BHP £299 Stage 1: ECU Remap +28 BHP +50 Nm Torque
Beetle 2.0 115 BHP £299 Stage 1: ECU Remap +14 BHP +20 Nm Torque
Beetle 2.3 V5 170 BHP £299 Stage 1: ECU Remap +17 BHP +20 Nm Torque

Please excuse the ignorance!

All the above state "stage 1 ECU Remap" - does that mean that you can do a "Stage 2"? if so what kind of hellraising does that unleash? :laughing:

[John@DNA]

Yeah stage 1 is just the standard upgrade, Stage 2, 3, 4, 5 on some is possible, usually involves hardware changes though! :)

[Martin_Keeton]

Yeah stage 1 is just the standard upgrade, Stage 2, 3, 4, 5 on some is possible, usually involves hardware changes though! :)


Cheers for that...

last(ish!) question...

(Hypertheticly of course) Do you have to declare a Stage 1 on insurance... is there any visible evidence of a modification? for example, how would i know that its not been done previous to my ownership - if you get my drift.

Insurance companies seem to gain great plesures in having my eyes out at any given chance! :D

[John@DNA]

Cheers for that...

last(ish!) question...

(Hypertheticly of course) Do you have to declare a Stage 1 on insurance... is there any visible evidence of a modification? for example, how would i know that its not been done previous to my ownership - if you get my drift.

Insurance companies seem to gain great plesures in having my eyes out at any given chance! :D

10 years in this industry I've never known anyone be challenged by an insurance company, hypothetically of course!

No visible change :)

[VDubster]

Taken from the new website we're putting up soon, note for now the Evvo £150 discount will still stand :)

Model Variant Orignal BHP Price DNA Tuning Performance
Beetle 1.8 T 150 BHP £299 Stage 1: ECU Remap +45 BHP +50 Nm Torque
Beetle 1.9 TDi 115 BHP £299 Stage 1: ECU Remap +30 BHP +50 Nm Torque
Beetle 1.9 TDi 130 BHP £299 Stage 1: ECU Remap +30 BHP +55 Nm Torque
Beetle 1.9 TDi 90 BHP £299 Stage 1: ECU Remap +28 BHP +50 Nm Torque
Beetle 2.0 115 BHP £299 Stage 1: ECU Remap +14 BHP +20 Nm Torque
Beetle 2.3 V5 170 BHP £299 Stage 1: ECU Remap +17 BHP +20 Nm Torque

How long do you think you will continue the discount? :-)

I really can't spare the cash right now but i really want the remap done at some point :-)

James

[John@DNA]

October/November I think then with the new operation will need to put this up

[VDubster]

October/November I think then with the new operation will need to put this up

Ok

Will have a think and be in touch, you still do the postal remap thing?

J

[John@DNA]

Ok

Will have a think and be in touch, you still do the postal remap thing?

J

Postal still an option :)

[Silverthang]

Have I got this right then the 2.0 slow would become 129BHP?

Beetle 2.0 = 115 BHP+14 BHP

[John@DNA]

Have I got this right then the 2.0 slow would become 129BHP?

Beetle 2.0 = 115 BHP+14 BHP

Yeah those are the minimum figures so possibly a tad more :)

[lejog2010]

John,

whats the difference on the fuel side?

I'm coming up yours April next year to show you the Lejog Bug, and while I'm there I'm maybe looking to getting it done.

I'm not into the speed just the MPG/running better side.

Its a 1600

[John@DNA]

Even on the diddy NA 1.6 you can see savings of 2-3mpg, on the TDI's you can see loads better

[lejog2010]

Maybe worth having it done.

Jim asked if you do Fords! ( I know I told him to shut up! ):rolleyes:

[John@DNA]

Here's everything I cover here and for all the other tuners I supply, the lists made ready for the new website, think this should explain all I've been tuning :D

[steve chubb valeting]

has any one put a de cat pipe in just had one made and wondered if any one had fitted one stev:) on 2 litre

[John@DNA]

It does help with mid range pick up on these as the 2.0L isn't too fussy with back pressure for mid range torque, top end is improved too.

[steve chubb valeting]

just had de cat pipe and k n panal filter fitted much better as my cat was blocked makes 2 litre more rev etc

[John@DNA]

and with the map there's even more of course :)

[Nighttrain1974]

So want mine doing.......

[John@DNA]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6ALySsPXt0

[Nighttrain1974]

:lol: :lol: :lol: brilliant.

Tell someone to buy my wheels and it may be sooner. ;)

[steve chubb valeting]

yes thats my next stop as stratford only 40mins from me what we lookin at for a few more bhp and cars going back to garage that made de cat pipe to have full system tomorrow full stanless etc custom made:laughing:

[1958 Harry]

How do you get on with the MOT with a De-Cat on?

[John@DNA]

yes thats my next stop as stratford only 40mins from me what we lookin at for a few more bhp and cars going back to garage that made de cat pipe to have full system tomorrow full stanless etc custom made:laughing:
Still doing the evvo preferential rate :)

[Nighttrain1974]

Still doing the evvo preferential rate :)

Till when????

My birthday in January. ;)

[John@DNA]

How do you get on with the MOT with a De-Cat on?

I guess there are friendly MOT stations out there...

[John@DNA]

Till when????

My birthday in January. ;)


This year will be the last year it's at the price it is, next year it will go up slightly!

[Nighttrain1974]

This year will be the last year it's at the price it is, next year it will go up slightly!

Birthday special, pretty please. :o

[John@DNA]

Birthday special, pretty please. :o

I guess as long I take a booking for next year before I put it up, ok? :)

[steve chubb valeting]

its not what u now but who ps we mot ed car before we put de cat on ok till next time had system done gos and sounds great well happy now just need a re map etc