Weight Loss Thread....

[Shamrockez]

Ok, here we go again - on a diet! Been to the nurse for help 2 weeks ago and she said to record everything I ate in a diary which we gave me, do some exercise and don't eat anything with more than 4g of fat per 100g...

My weigh in was today and I've lost 7lbs in 2 weeks, which I'm very pleased about :D

So I thought it might be fun to have a thread where anyone else wanting to lose weight can join in :) you don't have to post what you actually weight, just what you've lost (or gained if you've had a bad couple of weeks). I shall report back to this thread every 2 weeks :)

[berty]

Ok, here we go again - on a diet! Been to the nurse for help 2 weeks ago and she said to record everything I ate in a diary which we gave me, do some exercise and don't eat anything with more than 4g of fat per 100g...

My weigh in was today and I've lost 7lbs in 2 weeks, which I'm very pleased about :D

So I thought it might be fun to have a thread where anyone else wanting to lose weight can join in :) you don't have to post what you actually weight, just what you've lost (or gained if you've had a bad couple of weeks). I shall report back to this thread every 2 weeks :)

i tend to try and start i diet every monday then by the weekend its out the window!!!!!! iv got weddings coming up also supposed to be going mexico in 9 weeks?????? obviously depends on the old swine flu

but yeah maybe this thread my help!!! steer my in the right direction lol

[ro6341]

Hi there,
we hear all of this about new years time, not mid April lol. If you want a hand with any info or training stuff give me a shout. Im in the marines and work in many gyms the 12 years i have been in. Im old school though! i believe in hard training, not this eat one cabbage a day and sit around all day. Everyone can fit some sort of training in a day, i do and i have a family and work aswell. You cant sue me if you break a nail though!!!

Matt:D

[Pure]

Well done!

4g per 100g seems very low though!

[Shamrockez]

i tend to try and start i diet every monday then by the weekend its out the window!!!!!! iv got weddings coming up also supposed to be going mexico in 9 weeks?????? obviously depends on the old swine flu

but yeah maybe this thread my help!!! steer my in the right direction lol

Good luck :) I normally start diets every monday and fail them every tuesday lol.

Hi there,
we here all of this about new years time, not mid April lol. If you want a hand with any onfo or training stuff give me a shout. Im in the marines and work in many gyms the 12 years i have been in. Im old school though! i believe in hard training, not this eat one cabbage a day and sit around all day. Everyone can fit some sort of training in a day, i do and i have a family and work aswell. You cant sue me if you break a nail though!!!

Matt:D

Thanks for the offer :) I'm currently doing 30 mins on the Wii each week day and once we've finished building the shed, we have some bikes waiting to be built up, so I'm planning on going for a bike ride 3 times a week or so :) does that sound about right?

Well done!

4g per 100g seems very low though!

Cheers :)

The boolet she gave me says 4g too. I've found a lot of things I can eat under 4g though, so I'm not too worried. The most annoying things are 5 and 6g stuff - so near yet so far!

[Pure]

The boolet she gave me says 4g too. I've found a lot of things I can eat under 4g though, so I'm not too worried. The most annoying things are 5 and 6g stuff - so near yet so far!

Haha... story of all successes and failures. My concern would be how they get something to be so low in fat and why they want you to be so low in fat. Too much sugar and you are playing havoc with your insuline sensativity. Too much protien and then comes the headaches! Remember we have a weight loss industry based on a pack of lies and fueled by companies that mass produce food (i.e. not your local farmer, or local anything). The bigest lie is eating fat gets you fat.

[yellowbug]

wwwoooooo hhhhhooooooo
well done Lucy :D

right Im going to get my arse in gear and join in with this weight lose thing too :)
I keep complaining I have put weight on so its time to shift it again - I will weigh myself tonight and then again in 2 weeks :)

my plan will be more fruit..less crap
and more exercise - i used to go to curves everyday, but when we bought the house I couldnt afford that anymore lol
So I think I will start with wii fit everyday (at least half an hour)
then try and get out on my bike a bit (although im a bit of a wuss and dont like the roads so will need to find somewhere nice to go first lol)
and may do a class at the local gym...they have a few that look like fun that might be worth a try (thinking something like dancercise - anyone done it?)

[Shamrockez]

Haha... story of all successes and failures. My concern would be how they get something to be so low in fat and why they want you to be so low in fat. Too much sugar and you are playing havoc with your insuline sensativity. Too much protien and then comes the headaches! Remember we have a weight loss industry based on a pack of lies and fueled by companies that mass produce food (i.e. not your local farmer, or local anything). The bigest lie is eating fat gets you fat.
A lot of the things are just normal foods and not special low fat stuff - a lot of pasta sauces made with tomatoes etc don't contain much fat, so they're ok. I do make sure that sugar, salt etc levels aren't too high too, cos as you say, that leads to other issues.

Most of the stuff we've been eating is just normal food and lots of veg. For example stir fry stuff (with fry light, not oil) and we cook the meat with a health grill and use things like garlic, soy and ginger and herbs to add flavour instead of a shop bought sauce :) or chicken in chopped tomatoes with veg.

[Shamrockez]

wwwoooooo hhhhhooooooo
well done Lucy :D

right Im going to get my arse in gear and join in with this weight lose thing too :)
I keep complaining I have put weight on so its time to shift it again - I will weigh myself tonight and then again in 2 weeks :)

my plan will be more fruit..less crap
and more exercise - i used to go to curves everyday, but when we bought the house I couldnt afford that anymore lol
So I think I will start with wii fit everyday (at least half an hour)
then try and get out on my bike a bit (although im a bit of a wuss and dont like the roads so will need to find somewhere nice to go first lol)
and may do a class at the local gym...they have a few that look like fun that might be worth a try (thinking something like dancercise - anyone done it?)

We don't have a local gym - the nearest ones at Taunton and Yeovil. I might use one when I'm qualified and teaching in town - otherwise is a 12 mile drive to get there.

I think the wii fit has certainly helped :)

And fruit is always good - I love fruit! I think I may have been a fruit bat in a previous life! :D

[S33RY M]

Hi all. Doing coast 2 coast in about 7 weeks. I weigh 15 stone on the button. Got a bet on with one ov the lads i can drop 2 stone in a month . Been running, bike riding eat propele 4 week now. Gut is going slowly but i am still 15 stone .:-(

[Vickie]

Hey Guys! Well done Luc!!

I started about 2 weeks ago doing the old Fat Fighters thing again with my sis - lost 5 pounds so far so chuffed with that.

I sooo need to get myself a Wii Fit!! :)

[Shamrockez]

Hi all. Doing coast 2 coast in about 7 weeks. I weigh 15 stone on the button. Got a bet on with one ov the lads i can drop 2 stone in a month . Been running, bike riding eat propele 4 week now. Gut is going slowly but i am still 15 stone .:-(

I'm no expert, but is that because you're gaining muscle?

Hey Guys! Well done Luc!!

I started about 2 weeks ago doing the old Fat Fighters thing again with my sis - lost 5 pounds so far so chuffed with that.

I sooo need to get myself a Wii Fit!! :)

Cheers Vic - well done on yours! :D Yay for Fat Fighters!

Yeah the Wii Fit is certainly a help! :D

[albionfc*]

Ive put a stone on since last september like wearing t shirts but have to hide in a baggy hooded top .Do boxer size mondays which kills me and badmington thursdays treat myself once a week sats to a Chinese one of my ickle pleasures in life. In the week dont really eat that much to be honest just whats put up for work.
When i was 30 ish i could do a bit of training and the weight would just fall off . Hope this threads not just for girls as im the biggest lol but any help is welcome.

[princessjojobugster]

im going to cut out the booze for the whole of May till my birthday on the 1st of june 4 weeks off the wine always works a treat for me and not being a cheese monster at night lol

[Abi_C]

Every diet i try and every 'cutting out' the chocolate, crisps bad things goes out the window when im with friends or partner and they suggest getting a takeaway or staying in getting some munchies and watching a film. Also i find it impossible to go to the cinema and just walk straight mast the pic n mix, ben & jerrys section, popcorn, overly sized bags of sweets...why did they have to make food taste so good in the first place, there fault :) Its just too tempting lol. Although a month ago i bought Natalie Cassidy's workout dvd and started seeing results in only 2 weeks. I was doing the vid three times a week and instead of loosing weight i just wanted to tone up and try smooth out them lovely 'crinkles and dimples'! It really is working well chuffed! Still a fatty just a toned fatty :) Better than nothing, get to keep up the tasty crap food lol!x

[berty]

my problem is bloody booze at the weekends im sure if i just cut that out oh and bread oh and cheese i would loose loads lol!!!!

im gonna loose over a stone before a wedding june 15th ......u just watch me

[Jose Martinho]

Wii fits seem quite popular here. If anybody wants one I was considering the possibility of selling my Wii & Wii fit. No idea what they are worth, but could look into it if somebody is after one.

[yellowbug]

ok my friend has conned me into going to spinning class with her after work tomorow...wish me luck lol

[ro6341]

Its all quite basic really. Booze is the worse! These have so much calories, especially alcho pops. You have to watch the calories going in and willing to burn it off. When you train, when you sweat your loosing weight, no matter what you do. Everybody starts somewhere, I did. You will not see a change in you body for a minimum of 6 weeks, it takes time, remember that. For good weight loss is, 1, spinning 2,running 3, boxercise, 4, running. These are the fastest calorie burners. Keep away from pasta if your not training, its full of carbs. You want to eat six small meals a day, never miss breakfast, if you do you will put weight on as you wont feed your metablism that burns fat.

Hope this helps, you can train anywhere, and any time!

[gareth]

For me its the opposite, I'm looking to bulk up, I'm taking Progain and Cyclone. As ro6341 said, i'm eating at least 6 meals a day and train every other night.

No pain no gain they say

My wife does the spinning lessons, rather her than me, it looks well hard, the instructor said that you burn 500 calories in 30 minutes :eek:

[berty]

ok my friend has conned me into going to spinning class with her after work tomorow...wish me luck lol

the hardest class going!!! lol :laughing:

the best of it is u have to carry on or u look a proper nob!!!

good luck

u my throw up :laughing:

[buggirl]

Can I join this guys? I need to loose 3 stone really! Used to be fat then I was really skinny, now fat again! Lost nearlly 2 stone since last July but need to loose a further 3 to be at the weight I want to be!! What diet works bext for everyone else? I tried slimming world and that was good, but I struggle now as a veggie, as if I eat too much pasta i am piling on the punds! Help!:confused:

[vicky_notts]

Well done on loosing what you have.I dont tell this many people as im quite embarresed but ive lost 8 stone in weight!
Should be pleased and i am but angry for letting me get to nearly 18 stone :mad:
I did it by using Lipotrim (google if interested lol) its like slim fast but no meals and its run by the chemist.It took me just over 7-8 months.Im now a healthy size 12 and love my curvy figure lol:laughing:

So look into it guys and girls,id tell anybody to give it a go if all else fails.And it works....im proof.

Vicky xxx

[Shamrockez]

Well done on loosing what you have.I dont tell this many people as im quite embarresed but ive lost 8 stone in weight!
Should be pleased and i am but angry for letting me get to nearly 18 stone :mad:
I did it by using Lipotrim (google if interested lol) its like slim fast but no meals and its run by the chemist.It took me just over 7-8 months.Im now a healthy size 12 and love my curvy figure lol:laughing:

So look into it guys and girls,id tell anybody to give it a go if all else fails.And it works....im proof.

Vicky xxx
Wow that's fantastic! :D That's a stone a month! :eek:

[yellowbug]

My wife does the spinning lessons, rather her than me, it looks well hard, the instructor said that you burn 500 calories in 30 minutes :eek:

the hardest class going!!! lol :laughing:

the best of it is u have to carry on or u look a proper nob!!!

good luck

u my throw up :laughing:


ah thanks for building the confidence up guys lol

shes been going a couple of weeks and is loving it :)
i put my foot down and insisted on the half hour class...she wanted the 45 minute one but I dont want to kill myself :lol:

[yellowbug]

ok change of plans...no spinning class for me
just went to book it and its fully booked :(

[Shamrockez]

what's spinning? :confused:

[ro6341]

Gareth if your trying to bulk up i would quit the cyclone and move onto creatine. To me your taking to much protein in there. Your body can only take so much in and place it in the right positions. The rest is just a waste. You want to be looking at about 36-40grms a serving and taking it every three to four hours, that works out about four times aday. Training wise. look at hitting an individual muscle group a night and only have two days off in the week if you can, and lift heavy, 4 set about 6/8 reps and you should be struggling on the last few. good to have a spotter with you. creatine is the way ahead though dude.

Matt

[berty]

what's spinning? :confused:

its where u sit on a excersise bike for 45 none stop HARDCORE cycling uphill downhill etc all to the yelling of the instructor ............ its hard bloody work

[berty]

ok change of plans...no spinning class for me
just went to book it and its fully booked :(


worked in your favour then lol :D

[berty]

Well done on loosing what you have.I dont tell this many people as im quite embarresed but ive lost 8 stone in weight!
Should be pleased and i am but angry for letting me get to nearly 18 stone :mad:
I did it by using Lipotrim (google if interested lol) its like slim fast but no meals and its run by the chemist.It took me just over 7-8 months.Im now a healthy size 12 and love my curvy figure lol:laughing:

So look into it guys and girls,id tell anybody to give it a go if all else fails.And it works....im proof.

Vicky xxx

Well done!!! i wanna lose 2 stone ill be happy!!!

[Shamrockez]

its where u sit on a excersise bike for 45 none stop HARDCORE cycling uphill downhill etc all to the yelling of the instructor ............ its hard bloody work
Oh! I thought it was going round in circles till you got dizzy and fell over! :o

[Rachell]

Wii fits seem quite popular here. If anybody wants one I was considering the possibility of selling my Wii & Wii fit. No idea what they are worth, but could look into it if somebody is after one.

Def might consider it how much do you want for it?

[berty]

Oh! I thought it was going round in circles till you got dizzy and fell over! :o

:laughing:

[neg.dubb]

Sorry I'm uncool, sitting in Nero's with a choc muffin and large cappuccino - ooh I feel bad!!!!

[berty]

Sorry I'm uncool, sitting in Nero's with a choc muffin and large cappuccino - ooh I feel bad!!!!

so u bloody should lol!!!

iv got a bbq to go to on sunday........... i can feel the weight coming on already :laughing:

fresh start monday :p

[Jose Martinho]

I've done really well and managed to put on half a stone since xmas. :o
I stopped playing football about nearly 2 years ago, which hasn't helped. Not a fan of the gym. I'm 17st11 now which is not far shy of my peak of 18st7. According to my Wii fit (what does a blinking games console know) I'm 6st overweight! :eek:
I think I should be around 14st really, but never mind eh. :laughing:
I might try and shift it by the end of August for my holiday. On the other hand I might not. :cool:

[charlie @ evvo.co.uk]

if anyone is based in Southampton check out my buddy Caroline Radway on www.outdoorfitforlife.com (http://www.outdoorfitforlife.com) her sessions are seriously good work and only last 45 minutes plus she has an e-book you can buy and do at home if you can get to Southampton.

[gareth]

Gareth if your trying to bulk up i would quit the cyclone and move onto creatine. To me your taking to much protein in there. Your body can only take so much in and place it in the right positions. The rest is just a waste. You want to be looking at about 36-40grms a serving and taking it every three to four hours, that works out about four times aday. Training wise. look at hitting an individual muscle group a night and only have two days off in the week if you can, and lift heavy, 4 set about 6/8 reps and you should be struggling on the last few. good to have a spotter with you. creatine is the way ahead though dude.

Matt


Yeah, I used to train that way but I don't have the time to do that anymore so I moved onto a simular training method 3 times a week, one day its biceps, back (both lower and upper)and forearms and then the next training is shoulders, triceps, neck and chest and the last session is legs, obliques and abs.

I currently do 3 sets at the mo, 2 x 10 and 1 set of 8 of heavier weights and then to finish i'll do dips / pull ups / push ups etc depending on what muscle group i'm working till exhaustion. I mainly use the lose weights and dumbells as I find my stronger side just takes over all the time but with bench pressing I use the machine that if you drop the bar too fast it stops.

I've seen the maximuscle creatine on sale and I know that wole from last man standing uses it a lot but then again he's a monster of a man :eek:
It all gets confusing as there are so many mixes out there on the market but I'll only take maximuscle as its good proper ingredients and indorsed by atheletes and clubs.
Cyclone http://www.maximuscle.com/cyclone is an all in one so it has creatine, protein, amino acids, glutamine peptides and Beta-Ecdysterone in it so it'll cover a wide area of what I need, still maybe some more creatine mixed in there won't harm I surpose, shops here I come...... tomorrow :laughing:

Its the same as loosing weights - hard to do, I've been at it a while now and no where near where I want to be but I'm going down the 'O natural' route ;)

[Shamrockez]

Ok, it was weigh in day today - only lost 2lbs this fortnight :( but still, a loss is a loss! I know why though - I pulled a muscle in my bum last week and haven't been able to do any excercise - cos it hurts! And had a couple of naughty meals! The nurse seemed happy though, as I've lost a total of 9lbs in 4 weeks, which isn't too bad. At least it's all going in the right direction :)

Next weigh in is in 3 weeks after my exams and giving time for my bum to heal!


How did everyone else get on?

[S33RY M]

Very good. Coast 2 coast 4 weeks away now. 1 week of my bet left try to cut down it is killing me hungery all the time. Hav lost half a stone tho.

[Shamrockez]

half a stone in 1 week? :eek: that's loads! Well done!

[Matthewj]

Um to the guy that wants to bulk bit of topic but creotein isn't a god way to go. To much is really bad ! All it does is makes more water saturation in your muscles making them recover quicker and look bigger. If you want to bulk just eat a lot of the right foods. Hard boil eggs and just eat the White have like 4-5 a day doctcors now say the yolk isn't bad for you but you don't need it. Backed potatoes alas a snack are also good. And plenty of lean meat. Low reps high weights. Bulk up loads then toneit after with low weight high reps and no fats.

The funny thing about spinning is my girlfriend did it twice a week along with other classs while I just bilked my upper body. I went from 20kg in each hand chest to 35kg looked bigger and felt fit. Went spinning and lasted 10 mins ! But I can run for over 1 hour non stop. Just shows though how just doing weights makes you not any fitter.

Oh and a good drink to take whilst and before training is NoExplode. Makes you push the last reps out :)

[berty]

i wondered where this thread had dissapeared to lol!!!!! so u all doing crap then

[Pure]

For me its the opposite, I'm looking to bulk up, I'm taking Progain and Cyclone. As ro6341 said, i'm eating at least 6 meals a day and train every other night.

No pain no gain they say



I'd personally say forget all this "bulking" and "cutting" malarky.

The way to get big is to get stronger. The more weight you can lift for the more reps, the stronger your muscles have to be... the stronger the muscles have to be the more fibers etc, so the bigger.

Check out DC lifting principles where you do one working set under maximum load and look to make gains in reps or weight lifted every time you do a particular exercise. The rest of the time is spent recovering and rebuilding from lifting heavy.

Also check out things like the anabolic diet where you eat high fat and low carb. Its a myth that eating fat gets you fat. That also falls into the hands of these companies who produce the weight gainers, protien powders and energy bars and drinks you can buy at places like GNC. They cram then full of cheap carbs and sugars that you can't possible use all of in a day and the next time you weigh in you assume its muscle. Eating high fat is by its very nature high protein too, and its suited to building lean muscle rather than muscle with fat. If its not come from an animal then its a gimick!

I'd also say that creatine is useful for a few weeks when you are lifting heavy, but only to aid recovery. There is no substitue for lifting big and eating big.

[xeb]

If you are bulking make sure you are squating and deadlifting.

Work out too much and you wont gain anything exept an injury.

Rest is as important as the work in the gym.

I would do 2 full body's a week.

squat
deadlift
bench
shoulder press
pull ups.

[xeb]

Um to the guy that wants to bulk bit of topic but creotein isn't a god way to go. To much is really bad ! All it does is makes more water saturation in your muscles making them recover quicker and look bigger. If you want to bulk just eat a lot of the right foods. Hard boil eggs and just eat the White have like 4-5 a day doctcors now say the yolk isn't bad for you but you don't need it. Backed potatoes alas a snack are also good. And plenty of lean meat. Low reps high weights. Bulk up loads then toneit after with low weight high reps and no fats.

The funny thing about spinning is my girlfriend did it twice a week along with other classs while I just bilked my upper body. I went from 20kg in each hand chest to 35kg looked bigger and felt fit. Went spinning and lasted 10 mins ! But I can run for over 1 hour non stop. Just shows though how just doing weights makes you not any fitter.

Oh and a good drink to take whilst and before training is NoExplode. Makes you push the last reps out :)

[Pure]

If you are bulking make sure you are squating and deadlifting.

Work out too much and you wont gain anything exept an injury.

Rest is as important as the work in the gym.

I would do 2 full body's a week.

squat
deadlift
bench
shoulder press
pull ups.

I agree... compound excersises are the way to go. Listen to your body (thats where the rest comes in. You keep lifting day after day you'll not feel where your doing harm or good) and you'll find what works for you. I personally react badly to doing squats and deads in the same week, let alone session.

[xeb]

I agree... compound excersises are the way to go. Listen to your body (thats where the rest comes in. You keep lifting day after day you'll not feel where your doing harm or good) and you'll find what works for you. I personally react badly to doing squats and deads in the same week, let alone session.


Totally, everbody is different.

[S33RY M]

half a stone in 1 week? :eek: that's loads! Well done!

Thanks i am going to stick with it for the next 4 weeks be for the coast 2 coast & see what i can loss.

[yellowbug]

Sorry for slightly delayed update......

according to my wii fit, on thursday I had lost 5lbs :)
Im not entirely sure I believe it to be honest lol I dont feel like Ive lost anything, but hey ho, wwill keep going and see if I can eventually see a difference lol

[Shamrockez]

5lbs is great - well done! :D


I don't always belive the wii fit either - but it said the same as the doctor's scales, so it must be reasonably accurate.

[yellowbug]

5lbs is great - well done! :D


I don't always belive the wii fit either - but it said the same as the doctor's scales, so it must be reasonably accurate.

hmm maybe i will believe it then lol

I didnt believe it at the time, as it was the day I text you saying I felt fat so was going to go and kick wii boxings ass lol

I had an all night dancing session on friday so I must have burned off a fair few calories then too :lol:

[albionfc*]

Not sure if this is more a lasses thread but im a big girl anyhow.

Ive not been able to lose any since last post , 12 stone and thats not good for 5ft 6 , i used to be 10 stone when i was running people say i look better now but i dont listen to it felt more comforable with myself then.

Thing is with me i cant wear any of my wardrobe as bugger all fits and i will not buy bigger so hooded top 24/7.

I play badmington thursdays "but not really pushed"
But boxer size tonight "every monday" which is a total killer and still no differance.

Think its because im getting older not sure last week i only had one meal the hole of the week which was wednesday but still no weight change as yet.
The class i do monday thats got to make a differance tho surely it must :o

[Shamrockez]

Think its because im getting older not sure last week i only had one meal the hole of the week which was wednesday but still no weight change as yet.

That's the worst thing you can do! If you only have one meal a week, then your body will panic and instead of burning fat, will keep it in reserve as it doesn't know when the next meal might be!

[xeb]

Not sure if this is more a lasses thread but im a big girl anyhow.

Ive not been able to lose any since last post , 12 stone and thats not good for 5ft 6 , i used to be 10 stone when i was running people say i look better now but i dont listen to it felt more comforable with myself then.

Thing is with me i cant wear any of my wardrobe as bugger all fits and i will not buy bigger so hooded top 24/7.

I play badmington thursdays "but not really pushed"
But boxer size tonight "every monday" which is a total killer and still no differance.

Think its because im getting older not sure last week i only had one meal the hole of the week which was wednesday but still no weight change as yet.
The class i do monday thats got to make a differance tho surely it must :o


You can't loose weight like that ( not long term anyway), you metabolism will slow right down if you don't eat and the fat on your body will be trying to cling on to you!. You need to eat 4-6 small meals a day a little bit bleow your maintanence level. So if you need 2500 cals a day, work on 2400 or thereabouts and the weight will come off.

You need to eat to do the exercise.

[albionfc*]

:o That's the worst thing you can do! If you only have one meal a week, then your body will panic and instead of burning fat, will keep it in reserve as it doesn't know when the next meal might be!

You can't loose weight like that ( not long term anyway), you metabolism will slow right down if you don't eat and the fat on your body will be trying to cling on to you!. You need to eat 4-6 small meals a day a little bit bleow your maintanence level. So if you need 2500 cals a day, work on 2400 or thereabouts and the weight will come off.

You need to eat to do the exercise.

I know what your both saying but its how i did it 8 years ago.I did find it hard going last week at boxer size having not eaten , had something to day so tonight should be a bit easier fingers crossed.

My back stopped hurting for the first time last week and made excerise that much more easier then seems to hurt more when im carrying a tummy

[xeb]

:o



I know what your both saying but its how i did it 8 years ago.I did find it hard going last week at boxer size having not eaten , had something to day so tonight should be a bit easier fingers crossed.

My back stopped hurting for the first time last week and made excerise that much more easier then seems to hurt more when im carrying a tummy



You probably need to put some muscle on, I bet your posture is terrible and you have rounded shoulders ( no offence bty ).

But it's a lifestyle, you do what you wanna do.

[albionfc*]

You probably need to put some muscle on, I bet your posture is terrible and you have rounded shoulders ( no offence bty ).

But it's a lifestyle, you do what you wanna do.

Posture if you mean back straight look to the sky then you could be right have no confidence in myself and do hunch all the time. Also drive 250 miles aday I surpose isn't helping.
Could do with a decent badmington partner to mines only 4ft 11 sometimes feel I could put 2 people the other side of the net LOL ;)

[xeb]

Could be driving I used to get back ache at the bottom when I drove alot. Don't really get it now I've turned into a gym freak!lol.

It's most likely a weak core so all the pressure is on your back.

I play tennis and if there aren't aneough people to play doubles ,2 play's one, that is a decent workout, you should try it!.

[albionfc*]

Could be driving I used to get back ache at the bottom when I drove alot. Don't really get it now I've turned into a gym freak!lol.

It's most likely a weak core so all the pressure is on your back.

I play tennis and if there aren't aneough people to play doubles ,2 play's one, that is a decent workout, you should try it!.

Yes try anything once really trying to get back into the gym thing.Tonights always a killer he really works us most in the class are girls and i hate coming last lol.

As for driving and my back yes right at the bottom, used to love driving in my spare time no hate it with all the running around i do in the daytime :)

[Mantis]

I played ( Futbol/soccer ) for 18 years, and was also a personal trainer. I can answer most questions thrown at me. Feel free if any.

[Kate thingy]

Eating sensibly and regularly and doing exercise- all in moderation- will see long term results.

Well, so they tell me!

My situation is somewhat different. I suffered with, and still do to some degree, with an eating disorder and had my weight go below 8st (and I'm a leggy girl at 6ft!) and I looked like soooooo disgusting! It took someone literally forcing me to look at myself in photo's for me to acknowledge something was wrong. A horrid time indeed, but now I can talk about it- which apparantly is a good thing(?) My weight has now pretty much stablised at 10st, but I still think I'm excessively fat so exercise by running and carefully monitor what I eat.

I find living on my own doesn't help either. But I do get support from friends and family.

People say to me it's easy to put weight on- I personally disagree.

Losing weight can be a slippery slope if it gets obsessive- and not eating is just sooooo not a sensible option. Try snacking on fruit throughout the day, have a cereal for breakfast to kick start the metabolism, and eat a healthy meal in the evening, and not just before bedtime! It's all common sense- apparantly :confused:

Anyway- I notice members keep asking for pictures of cars etc- so what about muscles for us lot- the 'fairer' sex, heheheheheee, come on guys..............

[Mantis]

Kate: there is alot more to it all, then just eating right and doing exercise.

Firstly, they're 3 different types of body builds. These builds are classified as Ectomorph's, Endomorph's, and Mesiomorph's. The Endo and Mesio are the bigger of the 3.

Ectomorph's, which is your build, are very different in they way they're body actually works. Your exercise routines need to be taylored as well.
Also, genes have alot to do with your physical make up. Most people claim that it is easy to gain weight because they do not carry the Ectomorph body build, therefore their metabolism is slower making it easier for them.

Most personal trainers will tell you that you need to lift heavy in order to gain muscle at a good rate. That couldnt be further from the truth. Ectomorph's need shorter workout routines, and they also need to focus any weight lifting in massive reps with a moderate weight, not heavy weight. The reason is due to your bone structure. The structure is smaller, therefore the joints are more vulnerable to injury and being overworked.

Setting up a routine involving what is called "Super-Sets" are most productive workouts out there, and they are ideal for the ectomorph body build.

Couple things to remember. if you are trying to gain weight, which would be lean muscle mass, you have to give into the notion, that you WILL, gain fat when you do so. It is inevitable, you cant gain weight, and lean muscle mass without first packing on fat.
this is good though. Your body uses fat and complex carbohydrates as energy, so the notion that you dont want fat in your diet is wrong.

Your body needs about 25-40 grams of fat per day. Stay away from the saturated fats. Also, if you are trying to gain weight, you need to increase caloric intake. The typical Ectomorph build needs to consume 3500-4000 calories a day, in order to gain weight. Especially if you are going heavy on the cardiovascular workouts. You already have an increased metabolism do to your build, with the cardio, it is only going to speed it up even more.

1 Gram of protein per pound of body weight consumed daily! You may even up it to 1 1/2 grams per pound.

There is alot more I could tell you to help you out, however this post seems to be a bit long.

I would like to ask what your goals are for yourself. This will allow me to better address the situation and tailor it to your needs. I would also like to know what your current routine is, and what your diet typically consists of.

Hopefuly this helps you a little bit. Feel free to ask questions.

[Kate thingy]

....I would like to ask what your goals are for yourself. This will allow me to better address the situation and tailor it to your needs. I would also like to know what your current routine is, and what your diet typically consists of.

Thanks for asking. I enjoyed the science bit too, hehehee, very interesting. But to be honest it really means nothing to me personally. Apparantly my problem is in the 'brain'. So, I hate my figure, know I'm fat and want to lose weight (don't most women?) and in the past have gone to the extremes to do so. And every now and again it's all too easy to lapse back into old habits. And yet I'm told I must eat more, and sensibly and regularly. Put on weight? I don't think so!

As for my typical diet: sorry, no offence hun but it's a personal thing to me. Suffice to say that sometimes nearly every mouthful of food feels like hell- especially when in front of people who you know are just watching everything you do, aaarrrggghhhhhhhhhhh.........

[xeb]

Kate: there is alot more to it all, then just eating right and doing exercise.

Firstly, they're 3 different types of body builds. These builds are classified as Ectomorph's, Endomorph's, and Mesiomorph's. The Endo and Mesio are the bigger of the 3.

Ectomorph's, which is your build, are very different in they way they're body actually works. Your exercise routines need to be taylored as well.
Also, genes have alot to do with your physical make up. Most people claim that it is easy to gain weight because they do not carry the Ectomorph body build, therefore their metabolism is slower making it easier for them.

Most personal trainers will tell you that you need to lift heavy in order to gain muscle at a good rate. That couldnt be further from the truth. Ectomorph's need shorter workout routines, and they also need to focus any weight lifting in massive reps with a moderate weight, not heavy weight. The reason is due to your bone structure. The structure is smaller, therefore the joints are more vulnerable to injury and being overworked.

Setting up a routine involving what is called "Super-Sets" are most productive workouts out there, and they are ideal for the ectomorph body build.

Couple things to remember. if you are trying to gain weight, which would be lean muscle mass, you have to give into the notion, that you WILL, gain fat when you do so. It is inevitable, you cant gain weight, and lean muscle mass without first packing on fat.
this is good though. Your body uses fat and complex carbohydrates as energy, so the notion that you dont want fat in your diet is wrong.

Your body needs about 25-40 grams of fat per day. Stay away from the saturated fats. Also, if you are trying to gain weight, you need to increase caloric intake. The typical Ectomorph build needs to consume 3500-4000 calories a day, in order to gain weight. Especially if you are going heavy on the cardiovascular workouts. You already have an increased metabolism do to your build, with the cardio, it is only going to speed it up even more.

1 Gram of protein per pound of body weight consumed daily! You may even up it to 1 1/2 grams per pound.

There is alot more I could tell you to help you out, however this post seems to be a bit long.

I would like to ask what your goals are for yourself. This will allow me to better address the situation and tailor it to your needs. I would also like to know what your current routine is, and what your diet typically consists of.

Hopefuly this helps you a little bit. Feel free to ask questions.

Your joints won't get injured if you are perfoming the correct ROM, it doesn't matter how heavy the weight is if you are lifting correctly. Plus your ligaments/tendons get stonger aswell.

[Pure]

Take a look at things like the anabolic diet, the paleo diet, and even the atkins diet (but the not the don't do it propaganda sites).

Staying away from saturated fat is a myth. The fact that to gain weight you first have to pack on fat is also a myth. Popular diets (i.e. high in carbs and low in fat) are not the only way to eat. More often than not these diets are made up by execs in board rooms on the back of studies funded by companies that fit into the sliming and suplement inustry... and by that I mean companies that can turn an easy to produce product like slimfast and special K into a massive profit.

Really read up on it and the science and boring stuff involved. Many people that find it hard to put on weight, do so because they eat too high in carbs and protien. You burn what you have in excess, and with small amounts of dietry fat then you burn carbs and protien. If you are burning protien then you are destroying your bodies potential to build muscle, bone and all the other stuff you need to reproduce cells.

I'd also skip the running/rowing/stairmaster and any form of cardio if you are trying to stay fit but put on weight. There is a reason that marathon runners are skin and bone, and theres a reason that you see joe bloggs going to the gym every week of the year doing the same weights and treadmill running and his shape never changing. It just doesn't work. Hes not doing the movements to stimulate all areas of muscle growth and all the protien and carbs he puts in he burns because thats what his diet dictates happens. He eats so low in fat his body spares burning what fat he has.

Strength training is one (if not the) best way to gain lean muscle cut body fat. And I'm not talking bodybuilding, or becoming a powerlifter. I'm talking challenging your body to compound movements designed to stimulate all areas of your body at once. Major muscle groups and the supporters and stabalisers.

I seriously recomend googling for high fat diets and looking at sites like stronglifts.com... Not saying its the only way, just saying its a valid way (its also a way that has information out there thats not in mens health or fitness magazine, or on the back of a slim fast packet or diet section in heat magazine... I.e. its free information that someones not macking money out of as its industry led.)

[xeb]

Also don't be scared to lift big wieghts - you won't turn into to Arnie over night!

That's what most women think.

[Mantis]

I'm not really sure to be quite honest with you about the diet Pure has set forth. I would never recommend to someone to stop doing cardio. The reason being is that cardio keeps the blood cells and the veins that carry them expanded. Veins need to be able to contract, they need to have elasticity. When you stop doing cardio, that dramtically decreases the ability for them to expand because large amounts of blood are no longer flowing through them at any given point.

You can still overwork the muscle's in which your working even if you get good sleep and rest. This is all dependent on how strong the ligaments, tendons are, and also diet. Also, if you are eating the required amount of protein in your diet the protein combined with the amino acids will heal the muscle's faster then usual, and will also decrease the amount of lactic acid that is produced in your muscles, after working out over time.

Typically, someone with an ectomorph bone structure, usually produce less amount of lactic acid then the endo and mesio. Which is actually a good thing. When your muscles feel sore, its the lactic acid that has filled into the muscle, this will increase recovery time.

There are supplements out there to help as well.
Creatine has more science backing it then any other supplement on the market. It's proven safe and effective for a reason. People claim that it gives you muscle saturation. That is not a bad thing. Your muscles need water and blood in order to contract, and to heal. Creatine also fuses the myoblasts and myotubes together in the muscle. Also, there are people out there who are against creatine, but there is approx. 1-2 grams of creatine for every 8 ounces of meat you eat. Because creatine is produced by humans and animals normally, the body is already used to implementing this by product and digesting it.

Kate: Unfortunately, Creatine would not be a very productive supplement for you. The reason is because of your body build. Most people with the Ectomorph body structure already produce the maximum amount of Creatine O-Phosphate. Creatine O-Phosphate is what Creatine is turned into when it is digested. Creatine is a great supplement for Endo's and Mesio's. Ecto's typically see very little performance enhancement from this.

Ectomorphs work harder then any other body type to get in shape.
Be proud that you work harder then others. It does suck, but nothing comes for free and without hard work.

[Pure]

Cardio as we know it (running/jogging/cycling etc.) isn't the only way of getting blood moving around the body. Compare a jog on the treadmill to just one set of deadlifts or squats done with proper form. I can tell you which one gets my heart pumping harder.

As I said before there are many ways to go about it, and most of them have their correct parts.

Personally I don't buy into the body types and all the hype on the supplements. With all the different races and cultures and the constant evolution and breading in the world, lumping people into one of three catagories that will dictate how they should work out just doesn't seem to make sense. And unless you are planning on competing in bodybuilding competetions across the globe then the science behind supplements and diet really doesn't matter that much.

When you boil it down to the basics for gaining weight, the only way to do it is to get stronger. To get more muscle you have to lift weights and eat more. The reality is that you won't turn into a hulking mass of the Terminator overnight. In the real world (i.e. you ain't dedicating your life to becoming a bodybuilding mr universe) you won't even achieve a hulking mass over 10 years. The plus side of it is that you will get good/great body shape and you will be able to tell what is and what isn't working and make the adjustments to keep the shape you like.

[xeb]

I'm not really sure to be quite honest with you about the diet Pure has set forth. I would never recommend to someone to stop doing cardio. The reason being is that cardio keeps the blood cells and the veins that carry them expanded. Veins need to be able to contract, they need to have elasticity. When you stop doing cardio, that dramtically decreases the ability for them to expand because large amounts of blood are no longer flowing through them at any given point.

You can still overwork the muscle's in which your working even if you get good sleep and rest. This is all dependent on how strong the ligaments, tendons are, and also diet. Also, if you are eating the required amount of protein in your diet the protein combined with the amino acids will heal the muscle's faster then usual, and will also decrease the amount of lactic acid that is produced in your muscles, after working out over time.

Typically, someone with an ectomorph bone structure, usually produce less amount of lactic acid then the endo and mesio. Which is actually a good thing. When your muscles feel sore, its the lactic acid that has filled into the muscle, this will increase recovery time.

There are supplements out there to help as well.
Creatine has more science backing it then any other supplement on the market. It's proven safe and effective for a reason. People claim that it gives you muscle saturation. That is not a bad thing. Your muscles need water and blood in order to contract, and to heal. Creatine also fuses the myoblasts and myotubes together in the muscle. Also, there are people out there who are against creatine, but there is approx. 1-2 grams of creatine for every 8 ounces of meat you eat. Because creatine is produced by humans and animals normally, the body is already used to implementing this by product and digesting it.

Kate: Unfortunately, Creatine would not be a very productive supplement for you. The reason is because of your body build. Most people with the Ectomorph body structure already produce the maximum amount of Creatine O-Phosphate. Creatine O-Phosphate is what Creatine is turned into when it is digested. Creatine is a great supplement for Endo's and Mesio's. Ecto's typically see very little performance enhancement from this.

Ectomorphs work harder then any other body type to get in shape.
Be proud that you work harder then others. It does suck, but nothing comes for free and without hard work.

You don't know that she is an ectomorph, just becuase she was underweight you are presuming this. The girl has said she has an eating disorder, a women endo/meso could still me underweight. You should not diagnose someone like this over the internet.

All she needs to do is eat proper food with the right nutrients and vits in and do some regular exercise.

[Mantis]

Fortunately, I am not a doctor. Therefore I am not diagnosing anything.
However, giving her something to look into and maybe do some research on.

The three different types/body structures is what is determined by science. It is not something the developed by the supplement industry. These body types have been classified by doctors and are studied heavily in Psychology as well.

I also studied this and the Placebo Effect through my Psychology courses through college. There is alot of science and unbiased research done on this which is the only reason why I know this to be true. Physical evidence is very hard to dispute. Its very similar to the religion debate. Evidence shows there is no supreme being, however people believe him to be real.
People believe Nostradamus and the things he predicted, but if you look at his readings, he didnt predict anything. He predicted a random event but gave no specific details, which means assumptions are based on educated coincedence.

We are going to have to agree to disagree on this topic. I am not here to change your mind, or show any disrespect. Simply stating what I know, and what I have researched. Weightlifting workouts, should not feel like cardio workouts, unless you are doing a superset routine where you are working everything with minimal rest between exercises.

The body type was an educated guess for Kate. When someone says they are very thin I assume Ectomorph. So on and so forth.

[Pure]

Agree to disagree for me... I'm not debating that there isn't research done extensively. I'm debating that through my reading/research/experience (whatever you want to call it) I haven't reached the same conclusion that its fact beyond all doubt. Like most things in science, there are those that say one thing and those that say another (and those that throw a right spanner in the works!)

On a light hearted note... The scientists at Activia gave us Bifidus Digestum (?!?!?!)... And religion has given us Christmas the best of all holidays as it comes with loads of chocolate and a few days off work!

[xeb]

The only reason I mentioned the body type is that she has mentioned an eating disorder which is different to someone saying that they are thin and cannot put weight on.

Anyway fitness/nutrition is full of opinions no bother.....

[Kate thingy]

The only reason I mentioned the body type is that she has mentioned an eating disorder which is different to someone saying that they are thin and cannot put weight on.

Indeed!
What I initially said was "I suffered with, and still do to some degree, with an eating disorder" and went on to say "but I still think I'm excessively fat so exercise by running and carefully monitor what I eat"
I don't want muscles! I don't wanna run a marathon! I certainly don't wanna put weight on! And in my head I know I shouldn't lose any more!

All I was trying to say is that weight loss can get obsessive, becomes a way of life and then its with you for life, always in the background. It's common sense for me to say, aww think I'll eat sensibly today, but it don't work like that.

[Black Sheep]

:confused: I thought this thread was about LOSING weight for those of us that have more of a comfort not speed build:rolleyes:

[Pure]

:confused: I thought this thread was about LOSING weight for those of us that have more of a comfort not speed build:rolleyes:

I got the wrong end of the stick and tried to give some advice that I thought might be helpful... Roll your eyes and put me infront of the firing squad oh captin of the thread police!