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Kowalski
4th June 2008, 12:50
It was working fine before I started messing!
Fitted dropped spindles and that went OK. Decided to check and clean all the brakes.
Changed the shoes, flexible hoses and wheel cylinders (4 x drum). Now I am unable to bleed the brakes properly. I can bleed them so there is no air in the lines but there is absolutely no resistance on the pedal. I now think I have buggered the master cylinder. So its going in on Monday to be fixed properly.
I just want to drive it while the sun is out!

Moral, if it aint broke don't fix it.

1958 Harry
4th June 2008, 12:51
Moral, if it aint broke don't fix it.

I've worked that out with my bug! :laughing:

ian c
4th June 2008, 13:30
i've worked out with mine ...

if it aint broke , it will be .

EcoWarrior
4th June 2008, 13:36
i've worked out with mine ...

if it aint broke , it will be .

HAHA mine have been like that, if it wasn't broken i would be worried :)

Kowalski
4th June 2008, 13:58
I know something is wrong as the rubber bung on the arse end of the master cylinder is popping through the bulkhead just behind the pedal. I think because I have had the system open the fluid has dried up in the M/C, now the push rod is moving the bung instead of just sliding nicely.

I could fix it but here is the first of my excuses, garage is too small, it would take me too long, etc. I may as well just pay someone and have it fixed on the same day. Roll on Monday!

I can count on one hand the non-original parts on it, just hope this isn't the start of things to come.

When its fixed NO MORE MESSING!

Shamrockez
4th June 2008, 14:45
Clamp the flexis individually and it should tell you where the problem is.

I killed my (new) master cylinder on Bella too :( it works fine, but it's more like a handbrake - it doesn't bounce back! Annoying when you have to unbrake by hooking your foot round the pedal and pulling it back!

Dub-Diva
4th June 2008, 15:39
Lucy once told me that Volkswagen's are in equilibrium - you can't have everything working at once... and it's right - my car is working perfectly at the moment - but the fuel gauge doesn't work - almost too scared to get it fixed in case something major goes wrong! lol

Shamrockez
4th June 2008, 16:52
It's true!!!!!!

Kowalski
9th June 2008, 23:54
Its fixed!
Made a stupid error by fitting one of the rear shoes upside down so the handbrake was intermitant so therefore not giving me a proper feel when bleeding the brakes.
Now spot on again, Looks cool now its lowered with my 185 / 145 combo.

Chuffed!

1958 Harry
9th June 2008, 23:56
I need to do Harry rear brake, never done a bugs brakes befre, are they fairly simple to do, I need to change the flexi hoses and sort the binding brake on the rear.

kriss29monkey
10th June 2008, 00:05
The moto at my local stealership is:

if it aint broke fix it till it is !!!!!!!

Kowalski
10th June 2008, 00:10
Don't ask me I only know how to break them - lol.

Drums are simple enough, I had mine apart and coppersliped all the star adjusters and deox-c'd and or painted all the other stuff.

Mine is a late model so has slightly different adjusters to yours, mine have to go in a certain way where as yours are thinner and can be either way round where the shoe slips in.

The only ball ache is getting the cotter pin out and loosening the rear hub nut (It will be tight), releasing it will take the pressure off the axle seal so so might get a bit of gearbox oil dripping down the axles. Not a problem but just have plenty of brake cleaner handy. (not compressed air in case your brakes have asbestos in them)

Take a picture and put everything back the same way. The flexible hoses are also a doddle, just a case of replacing them, but as the system will be open you will need to bleed the system again when finished.

The binding might be down to scored drums on the inside but without looking you will never know, but hopefully it will be something simple like bad adjustment.

Retightening the axle nut you will need a torque wrench that goes up to 250 ft\lb and it needs to line up so you can get a new cotter pin back in.

Sounds difficult but get stuck in and be methodical, very straightforward - good luck.

Dub-Diva
10th June 2008, 00:13
We have a motto:

If it can't be fixed with a hammer... it's an electrical problem ;):laughing:

Shamrockez
10th June 2008, 08:13
i've found brakes relatively simple to do. The worst bit is bleeding them IMHO.

MrYellowbug
10th June 2008, 08:43
Its fixed!
Made a stupid error by fitting one of the rear shoes upside down so the handbrake was intermitant so therefore not giving me a proper feel when bleeding the brakes.
Now spot on again, Looks cool now its lowered with my 185 / 145 combo.

Chuffed!


Pictures neil, we need pictures :lol: