Crazy Group Buy Thread

[John@DNA]

Ok so who's for a group buy on remaps?

[Ray]

how many needed and and how much?

[John@DNA]

We'll start at 5 I guess, anymore can be added to that of course, how about £150 per car to ring in the new year?

[charlie @ evvo.co.uk]

I would be up for that mate :D

[John@DNA]

Shall we start a list? :)

[charlie @ evvo.co.uk]

Official List

Chris
Charlie

[Whitebug]

We are still up for the re map,

You took the readings from the car at Reading, any luck yet?
You said you had to re write it as it was a different program/software than you had already done for the 2.0L

Cheers Geoff

[John@DNA]

We are still up for the re map,

You took the readings from the car at Reading, any luck yet?
You said you had to re write it as it was a different program/software than you had already done for the 2.0L

Cheers Geoff

Hi Geoff,

Yep it's all in hand, another for the list then? :)

[Vickie]

John,

If you can do anything with a 2L then I would b up for it. What month/time of year are we talking?

[Shamrockez]

John,

If you can anything with a 2L then I would b up for it. What month/time of year are we talking?
Get Ian to get Noodle done - he won't regret it ;)

[Vickie]

Oh Luc you know what he's like with that bug, he won't have any of it! :laughing:

[Shamrockez]

Beat him with a stick till he gets it done - he'll love him again then ;) :D

[John@DNA]

John,

If you can do anything with a 2L then I would b up for it. What month/time of year are we talking?

Yes! I have a rough guide I knocked up for another forum overseas that wanted the same, gave me the idea to offer it here!

1.6 +8bhp
1.8NA +10bhp
1.8T cable throttle +45-50bhp
1.8T >99 Drive by wire with K03S instead of K03(varies widely) +50-60bhp
2.0 +12bhp
2.3 +16bhp
2.8 +15bhp
3.2 +15bhp

[John@DNA]

Oh and time of year, whenever I guess

[Vickie]

Sounds good to me - I lurrve my Smarty now it's been remapped so would like to do it to the bug as well :)

Great - well keep me informed guys! We could get a mini South West cruise going on Geoff!

[yellowbug]

if it was in a few months time we might be interested in joining in......but we have bugger all spare cash at the mo.....ernie needs too much stuff :lol:

[Vickie]

I don't mind when we do it - I wouldn't mind waiting a few months if you wanna get involved :)

[John@DNA]

What I could do is say that there's a two week deadline to get your name down and booked in for a date in the future if it helps some folk interested :)

[antix_v2]

Yes if you can get anymore out of it than jabba did.

Otherwise think I'll have to make do....

BUT; considering ditching the bug now..... But that's another story...

[John@DNA]

Yes if you can get anymore out of it than jabba did.

Otherwise think I'll have to make do....

BUT; considering ditching the bug now..... But that's another story...

I'm yet to find something I can improve on! What's the new car idea then? :)

[antix_v2]

I'm yet to find something I can improve on! What's the new car idea then? :)

You me "can't" improve on I hope :lol: She needs more...

New car; well. Lots of ideas really. From dull and boring like a Q7 or Merc CLS if we decide to have company cars; through to something a bit more fun like an Evo. But I'm also seriously tempted by a TVR as a toy.

Dunno; love my bug but getting bored. Maybe a new zorst and induction kit will help keep it 'alive' a bit longer.

[John@DNA]

You me "can't" improve on I hope :lol: She needs more...

New car; well. Lots of ideas really. From dull and boring like a Q7 or Merc CLS if we decide to have company cars; through to something a bit more fun like an Evo. But I'm also seriously tempted by a TVR as a toy.

Dunno; love my bug but getting bored. Maybe a new zorst and induction kit will help keep it 'alive' a bit longer.

Ha ha yes a bad typo! Q7 tdi... serious torque, shocking torque mapped, Evo, yum yum, I have the cable to play with those as well! We're looking to cover more brands this year.

Not sure what I'd get if I was choosing a car tomorrow, still love the old shape RS4's :)

[John@DNA]

*Bump* Seeing as this forums right down the bottom ;)

[charlie @ evvo.co.uk]

ok so do we have a date that this group buy closes on so that john at least has committals off people and interested parties can then agree a date?

[John@DNA]

I reckon 10th of February as the closing date

[charlie @ evvo.co.uk]

sounds good to me then J

[dmay34]

im up for that!!!

[John@DNA]

so far I make it;
Chris
Charlie
Ray
Whitebug - Geoff
Vickie
Yellowbug
dmay34

Still got 11 days to confirm folk :)

[tred]

Hubby had a proper drive of gertie tonight and decided he wanted one :rolleyes: Having told him about this thread he's curious to know what you can do with a 54 plate 1.9 tdi? I thought I'd read somewhere +30bhp, is that right?

We may, apparently, be interested....although I'd rather have pretty graphics on her, but thats another story ;) :laughing:

[Shamrockez]

You'll not be dissapointed with a TDi remap - best thing I've done to mine :) plus, it actually increases your MPG so it pays itself back! :D

[tred]

You'll not be dissapointed with a TDi remap - best thing I've done to mine :) plus, it actually increases your MPG so it pays itself back! :D

....or, he gets his remap and the improved mpg pays for the graphics ;)

It's starting to sound as good as a sale at a favourite shoe shop! ;) :)

Hmmm, Stratford as a day trip is do-able, so I'll mention this to him in the morning....he's in bed now with man flu :rolleyes:

[Shamrockez]

Yes! :D Good plan!

[John@DNA]

Do we have an updated list? :)

[tred]

Do we have an updated list? :)

Could you just confirm what improvement you can make on a tdi please as I can't find where i thought I read it now :-s

Many thanks :-)

[John@DNA]

Is it the 90,100, 110 or 115 variant? as there have been several variations!

[ff_rabbit]

Can you do a Varadero 125 too ??? and what would you get out of a 1.8T 225 ???

[tred]

Is it the 90,100, 110 or 115 variant? as there have been several variations!

Erm, how do I find that out? :o

[John@DNA]

Can you do a Varadero 125 too ??? and what would you get out of a 1.8T 225 ???

I had to google varadero to see what you meant! :) I think the only thing on the smaller bikes you can do is buy a different ignition module.

1.8T 225, oh only about 270 bhp :)

[John@DNA]

Erm, how do I find that out? :o
Isn't it on the cars' documents?

[John@DNA]

Could you just confirm what improvement you can make on a tdi please as I can't find where i thought I read it now :-s

Many thanks :-)

Looking at it's age I'd guess it's 100 or 105, the 100 you'll see around +35bhp and the 105 +32bhp

[tred]

Is it the 90,100, 110 or 115 variant? as there have been several variations!

Isn't it on the cars' documents?

Ah, could be but I've only got the transfer part of the log book as it's gone off to the dvla cos of the plate change :(

Can you put me down as a possible or do you need more commitment than that?

TIA

[tred]

Looking at it's age I'd guess it's 100 or 105, the 100 you'll see around +35bhp and the 105 +32bhp

...then count me in please :)

[John@DNA]

...then count me in please :)

It's the torque that you'll really notice!

Ok so now we're at 8;

Chris
Charlie
Ray
Whitebug - Geoff
Vickie
Yellowbug
dmay34
tred

Don't forget if friends or family have VAG's and not just beetles we can include them.

[public]

Hi John,

I'd be up for this if it's ok to book a time during the summer holidays (August) or is that a bit late?

Ian

[John@DNA]

Hi John,

I'd be up for this if it's ok to book a time during the summer holidays (August) or is that a bit late?

Ian

No anytime within reason is fine, let me know what sort of date, I think I have a couple of Saturdays booked up in August otherwise pretty free for now

[ff_rabbit]

I had to google varadero to see what you meant! :) I think the only thing on the smaller bikes you can do is buy a different ignition module.

1.8T 225, oh only about 270 bhp :)

I was gonna get the small engine one as a run about to and from the fire station when I move to my new house.

270 bhp sounds fun :D What about the 330cd ??? I have seen a cab one and it's mint, but I am only gonna be serious about it if the power gains are good :D

Oh and what do you think mine is pushing at the mo? Did you say it was around 180 ?

[John@DNA]

you gotta remember witht he turbo engines they make alot more torque which=acceleration turbo diesels make torque by the bucket load, petrol turbos also over NA petrols. You'd like both, sorry I'm not helping huh! :)

[neil76]

The potential for more MPG from my TDi Bug (100 BHP PD motor, RHD, stock) is making me interested.

You have posted the BHP power gains, what are the other benefits e.g. tourque? Where is peak power (RPM) is the curve smmother i.e. less all of the power in one rev band and then nothing that standard.

i.e. I am not interested in the outright BHP increase figures more an increase in drivability, smoother power delivery and then I guess if my driving style remains calm better MPG if I want it?

Cheers,
Neil

[John@DNA]

Hi, sorry it's in kW but this show's you the power throughout

[yellowbug]

So those from this end of the world, when would you be thinking of going?

John could you do a couple at the same time if some of us cruised down together?

[John@DNA]

Yeah sure can do a few in a day no problem if you want

[tred]

We'd have to come mid week as we both work weekends...would that be ok?

[John@DNA]

Mid week is great! Everyone usually wants weekends, thankfully I fill my weeks supplying other tuners and doing development

[tred]

Mid week is great! Everyone usually wants weekends, thankfully I fill my weeks supplying other tuners and doing development

Great :) Can I leave it till after I find out about my redundancy at the end of the month to arrange a time?....my head should be a bit clearer then, and I may have more free time :rolleyes:

[John@DNA]

Sure we're just getting names at the moment, that reminds me, five days remaining guys to sign up!

[nobbysnuts]

interested in the group buy but by reading the above it will be on different days to fit everyone in, I could do a week day just as easy as a weekend, 1.9 tdi cab, it looks like it would be an amazing difference.

[John@DNA]

Chris
Charlie
Ray
Whitebug - Geoff
Vickie
Yellowbug
dmay34
tred

Don't forget if friends or family have VAG's and not just beetles we can include them.

Can we update/use the list guys? :)

4 days left to get in this!

[John@DNA]

interested in the group buy but by reading the above it will be on different days to fit everyone in, I could do a week day just as easy as a weekend, 1.9 tdi cab, it looks like it would be an amazing difference.

Yes it will be different days! Week days easier for me as everyone loves Saturdays!

[public]

Chris
Charlie
Ray
Whitebug - Geoff
Vickie
Yellowbug
dmay34
tred
Public - looking at midweek in August (date to suit you), possibly midweek prior to then (school holiday sorta time)

[markyd3]

Im VERY interested in having my TDI 100 BHP cab remapped as it feels pretty sluggish.

i just want to ask if increasing the BHP by roughly 30% puts a lot more stress on an engine designed for 100 BHP. also will the car need more regular servicing etc etc.

in fact what are the downsides if any to having the car remapped?

Im sure it cant be ALL good!!

if it isnt going to make my engine wear out quicker then count me in!!

[John@DNA]

Im VERY interested in having my TDI 100 BHP cab remapped as it feels pretty sluggish.

i just want to ask if increasing the BHP by roughly 30% puts a lot more stress on an engine designed for 100 BHP. also will the car need more regular servicing etc etc.

in fact what are the downsides if any to having the car remapped?

Im sure it cant be ALL good!!

if it isnt going to make my engine wear out quicker then count me in!!

The 1.9TDI bottom end can run reliably at 230+bhp with a big turbo upgrade, the only downside is you might get to work earlier in the morning!

[markyd3]

lol ok out of interest is my engine in the Beetle any different to the engine that used to be in my GT TDI PD130 Golf?

Also..... can i ask what would the normal cost be for the remap before the £150 special offer?

oh... and where will i need to bring the car to?

lastly.... if i say yes to this tonight will u be wanting payment now?

Cheers,

Mark

[John@DNA]

lol ok out of interest is my engine in the Beetle any different to the engine that used to be in my GT TDI PD130 Golf?

Also..... can i ask what would the normal cost be for the remap before the £150 special offer?

oh... and where will i need to bring the car to?

lastly.... if i say yes to this tonight will u be wanting payment now?

Cheers,

Mark

The bits that cont are the same. I'm based in Stratford-upon-Avon and usually on the 1.9TDI the cost is £195, 1.8T's are £225. Payment only needed when the job is completed!

[markyd3]

Hi John,

Could you give me your postcode mate so as i can see how far you are from me.

Cheers,

Mark

[John@DNA]

Cv37 7jt :)

[markyd3]

145 bloody miles!!

why is everyone soooo far away!! :-(

[tred]

145 bloody miles!!

why is everyone soooo far away!! :-(

Maybe you're far from them, not them far from you? ;) :)

[markyd3]

Maybe you're far from them, not them far from you? ;) :)

lol but i prefer to blame "them"

[John@DNA]

I do a service by post with ECU's also, I've a group buy going currently with a forum in the east doing this, so if that helps it's worth bearing in mind :)

[tred]

lol but i prefer to blame "them"

Hmmm, I'm sure they ARE all out to get you, but I think you should keep taking the tablets ;) :)

[markyd3]

I do a service by post with ECU's also, I've a group buy going currently with a forum in the east doing this, so if that helps it's worth bearing in mind :)

Is that the same price John?

[John@DNA]

Is that the same price John?

Yep I can do it for that price, postage included

[markyd3]

Hi John, that would probably be a better option for me.

I assume that the service by post is no different to the service received at your premises ie it was never £150 for a live map was it?

how quick would the turn around be? obviously I will be left car-less without the ECU so would need it done ASAP.

Oh...and where is the ECU located on Beetle???? lol

Cheers,

Mark

[John@DNA]

Hi John, that would probably be a better option for me.

I assume that the service by post is no different to the service received at your premises ie it was never £150 for a live map was it?

how quick would the turn around be? obviously I will be left car-less without the ECU so would need it done ASAP.

Oh...and where is the ECU located on Beetle???? lol

Cheers,

Mark

If I was live mapping a car I'd spend all day with it and no definitely not £150, the stage one map is developed from lots of experience on the live mapping, the same as all other tuners offer, these days no one live maps, some modern ecu's won't even let you. Turn around is same day so if you use guaranteed before 12 delivery you can be done in 24 hrs.

Removal instructions courtesy of a previous employer :)

[markyd3]

That all sounds great to me John.....

ok my last question

Should i not commit to this service in the next couple of days at £150 what would this cost me to have done at a later date ...say in a couple of months time?

or is it just £195 the same as before?

[John@DNA]

After the group buy the price would go back up to the £195 price yes

[markyd3]

Excellent.

Can i therefore put my name down for the £150 deal.

I will not be able to send my ECU for a couple of months though as thats when i have the Cossie back on the road and i can use that for a couple of days.

hopefully thats ok?

Cheers,

Mark

[John@DNA]

sure :)

[markyd3]

sure :)

Nice one John, I shall give you a ring nearer the time when i want it done and will arrange to send the ECU into you.

[Ali]

How would it benefit my 8 year old 2ltr petrol bug? :)

[John@DNA]

I'll quote a review from a customer :)

CherylVW New Beetle 2.0L
http://www.dnatuning.com/images/stories/cherylbeetle.jpg
After owning my 2.0L new beetle for nearly a year, the only issue I had noticed was the slightly jerky gear changes and sluggishness in acceleration in certain gears.
After reading about DNA's services, and reviews by other new beetle owners, I discussed what could be done for my bug with john at great length. He explained what would be possible with my engine, and what gains I would experience.
I left my bug with John for a few hours and when I got it back, the difference was amazing. Even though it is a 2.0L (no turbo) the increase in power was noticable and gear changes were smooth. The acceleration response was immediate, and as a whole, my car was just fun to drive!!
I'd recommend a DNA remap to all 2.0L owners, just do it!!
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[Ali]

Was that on an older 2L like mine?

[Shamrockez]

I don't think age/mileage makes much difference?

I think Robbie was 8yrs old and on about 87k when John remapped him :)

He's almost on 104k now and no problems.

[Ali]

Does it improve fuel efficiency and if so by how much on average?

Im seriously considering having it done :)

[John@DNA]

Was that on an older 2L like mine?

Same engine yep

[John@DNA]

Does it improve fuel efficiency and if so by how much on average?

Im seriously considering having it done :)

Only a small amount, does depend on how you drive obviously!

[nobbysnuts]

I am going to have to wait to do this to the tdi so hopefully later on in the year there may be another group buy.

[dwain dibbly]

hi john
im up for this :)
just one question ive got a
2.3 v5 sport but its running, (or
will be next week) on LPG does this
make a difference?

[Cupra2407]

Hi John.

I'm definately interested in this group buy, however my car is a Seat Ibiza 2001 Cupra. Is this ok? If so put my name down. I would be looking to have it done early march any space in your diary? March 3rd or 4th would be spot on.

Cheers

[John@DNA]

hi john
im up for this :)
just one question ive got a
2.3 v5 sport but its running, (or
will be next week) on LPG does this
make a difference?

Are you running a split system or 100% LPG?

[John@DNA]

Hi John.

I'm definately interested in this group buy, however my car is a Seat Ibiza 2001 Cupra. Is this ok? If so put my name down. I would be looking to have it done early march any space in your diary? March 3rd or 4th would be spot on.

Cheers

Hi yes sure that will be fine :)

[dwain dibbly]

Are you running a split system or 100% LPG?

do you mean can i switch from gas to petrol?
yes i should have that ability.
is it possible to do anything with it?
cheers :)

[John@DNA]

do you mean can i switch from gas to petrol?
yes i should have that ability.
is it possible to do anything with it?
cheers :)

Well the LPG should be controlled under it's own controller but when you're switched back over to petrol then yes we could do something with that side of things :)

[dwain dibbly]

Well the LPG should be controlled under it's own controller but when you're switched back over to petrol then yes we could do something with that side of things :)
i never did ask at the place im having it converted, but will i loose any bhp running it on gas?
how do i book a date with you?
i quite like the idea of running around on LPG for economy then flicking a switch to petrol and roaring around :)

[John@DNA]

With gas it will be different, maybe a little less depends on the setup, sometimes hardly noticeable. To book in with me drop me an email and we'll look at dates j.robins@dnatuning.com

[Special K]

Is this group buy still open??

K

[John@DNA]

Yep I've left it open for now, what you thinking?...

[charlie @ evvo.co.uk]

John ive got a couple of skud guys interested can I send them to you as well for this...

[John@DNA]

Of course :)

[xeb]

Are these generic maps or custom?

Where you located John?

[John@DNA]

I'm in Stratford-upon-Avon. These are my highly developed stage one maps, if someone were to want a fully custom map I'd need the car all day and it would be dearer. Don't be fooled by marketing quoting custom mapping is better though, a highly developed stage one is miles better than a custom map by an inexperienced tuner. Also there are many companies out there quoting custom when they're just buying generic tuning from the UK or Germany and a well known "custom" one buys from Israel...

[Dub-Diva]

Can you remap mk1 golf gti's?

[John@DNA]

Earliest files I have are for the Mk2 Golf, Mk1's had carbs and dizzies didn't they?!

[Dub-Diva]

ummmmmm I dunno... :o... Mr Diva would know - I don't usually "do" engines - having said that, I have just learned all the parts of an aircooled engine :D but seeing as goofs are watercooled - I haven't a clue :rolleyes: :laughing:

I saw on flea-bay that there's a chip you can buy for the gti's and thought I'd ask...

I'm sure someone will be along in a sec and point out what a banana I am for asking... :rolleyes: :laughing: :o

[John@DNA]

Was it a chip or a resistor in the ebay listing....? Ebay is bad in that they let people list things with incorrect claims and descriptions :(

[Dub-Diva]

mm sure it was a chip, will have a look later on and let you know

[John@DNA]

yeah this is the thing with ebay they let people say chip and it isn't, one of the many problems in this industry

[charlie @ evvo.co.uk]

i wouldnt buy anything that claimed to be a remap chip off ebay its ok for quick parts you know what you're looking for but like john said there's a load of dodgy evil people on ebay the deliberately miswrite their listings to entice eager buyers

[John@DNA]

i wouldnt buy anything that claimed to be a remap chip off ebay its ok for quick parts you know what you're looking for but like john said there's a load of dodgy evil people on ebay the deliberately miswrite their listings to entice eager buyers

Not only that my industry is rife with idiots these days, good at marketing, poor at tuning, you'd be surprised which are the idiots! I'd love to name them but it's not cricket. I predict this industry has 5 to 15 years left maximum though. The manufacturers will close all access to tune cars very soon.

[Dub-Diva]

Yeah, it's def a chip.... look here (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=140210272316)

am a bit wary of being done, that's why I asked if you can remap mk1's cos if you can then pls quote us... lol... might be something we do in the future

[John@DNA]

Ah the cab was a mk1 for alot longer than the tin top, they're are very different the newer rag tops had to conform to emissions so they had to have the new systems fitted alongside the Mk2 that the Mk1 tin tops never got.
Is yours tin or rag and how old?! :)

[*tim*]

One of the aforementioned Skoda guys here, was sent over here by Charlie :)

Thanks for email earlier today John, and the extra details on the SRS. As I said as I'm still within warranty period so ideally I'd like a way to flash it back to standard if needs be.

So, how much extra would it be if you included a SRS device? I'm actually up your way next weekend, so make me an offer I can't refuse ;) :D Although £150 for the remap is a proper bargain!

[John@DNA]

Hi, I've only got Porsche 996T and VAG Petrol ME7 SRS units in stock at the moment unfortunately, I can't do any discount on the switchable units though.

Main dealers are pretty good these days, I have two remaps to do for one local to me next week..... If anyone ever needs flashing to standard for any reason I don't mind doing that free of charge.

[*tim*]

TBH I wasn't expecting any discount on the SRS units, I had a similar response from another mapping company when I was trying to set up a group buy, but thought I'd ask anyway :)

I'll give it some proper thought. Its almost too good to pass up on, and it means I can get rid of the horrible dragon box I've got at the mo, and the nasty step as it switches from off to on each time I squeeze the gas.

[John@DNA]

I can afford to offer this offer as unlike most other tuners I write my own software, most others buy their software which is what I mostly do these days write software for others :)

[Dub-Diva]

Ah the cab was a mk1 for alot longer than the tin top, they're are very different the newer rag tops had to conform to emissions so they had to have the new systems fitted alongside the Mk2 that the Mk1 tin tops never got.
Is yours tin or rag and how old?! :)

If all goes well this weekend then I'll be a proud owner of a '77 ragtop goof :D but shhhhh don't tell everyone lol

[Dub-Diva]

If all goes well this weekend then I'll be a proud owner of a '77 ragtop goof :D but shhhhh don't tell everyone lol

Ok, now I look a total idiot :rolleyes: - the registration plate is from 1977 but it's a 1988 ragtop with an older numberplate on it. Only discovered that when I went to insure it!

[John@DNA]

an 11 year newer car than you expected, good from one point of view?!

[Dub-Diva]

V bad from the insurance point of view though - insurance for a 1977 is £128, now the quote is either £280 for limited 6,000 miles a year or an astronomical £580 for unlimited mileage! :eek:

[Dub-Diva]

oook... got the goof now... it's an 1988 8v gti ragtop... can you recommend anything that might boost the zoooooom zoooooom zoooooom? ;)

[John@DNA]

oook... got the goof now... it's an 1988 8v gti ragtop... can you recommend anything that might boost the zoooooom zoooooom zoooooom? ;) Can you get me the numbers off the ECU?.... ;)

[Dub-Diva]

ummm.... will take a look over the weekend and let you know - it's pinking like hell at the moment cos of the crappy fuel the previous owner put into it instead of running it on premium like it's supposed to be... got to get the timing turned back by 6 degrees.... apparently :confused:

[John@DNA]

Might be old fuel if it's been sat around, loses all the volatile components of the fuel over time and yep it will pink!

[Dub-Diva]

Filled it to the brim with Shell Optimax and Mr Diva dumped that Octane Boost gunk into the tank with it, dub engineer reckons it will stop by the time I've finished the tank (done 100 miles already - another 200 to go!) - bloody hope so, the noise is horrible :eek: If it doesn't stop then will have to crank the timing backwards.

[John@DNA]

You might want to chuck some redex in there too to give it a good clean out

[Funk]

Hi John, is this group buy still open?

If so, whats the closest date you have to the 20th of this month matey?

Cheers!

Alex

[John@DNA]

Hi John, is this group buy still open?

If so, whats the closest date you have to the 20th of this month matey?

Cheers!

Alex

How about the 20th? :)

[dmay34]

hey John - am looking to get my remap down asap!

When could I do this?

Cheers

[John@DNA]

hey John - am looking to get my remap down asap!

When could I do this?

Cheers

Saturday?

[dmay34]

Sorted! what time? I'm in Enfield North London

[John@DNA]

I'm in Stratford-upon-Avon, how long you think it'll take to get to me? Not too early on a Saturday :)

[dmay34]

no more than 2 hours.... 11.30/12? or that too late?

You said previously on a posting that you would run a diagostic test for free... would you still do that? and can you confirm the remap is still £150?

ta muchly!

[John@DNA]

12 is fine and yes and yes :)

[dmay34]

cool... whats the address and how long will it take? approx!

cheers

[John@DNA]

It will take 2-3 hrs maximum, I'll pm you the details

[Feeex]

Hi John,
I've just taken delivery of a 140bhp diesel Passat DSG. Would the group buy apply to this car as I'd be interested in having it remapped. What bhp/torque would you expect? Also, I've had previous cars; mkIV Golfs/A4's, remapped by Revo and have an SPS box lying around. Could it be reused????
Thanks

[John@DNA]

Hi John,
I've just taken delivery of a 140bhp diesel Passat DSG. Would the group buy apply to this car as I'd be interested in having it remapped. What bhp/torque would you expect? Also, I've had previous cars; mkIV Golfs/A4's, remapped by Revo and have an SPS box lying around. Could it be reused????
Thanks

Hi sorry the revo toy only works with their stuff and to be honest a proper remap doesn't need altering nor would I suggest to anyone to do as it can be destructive if done wrong as has been seen!

On yours you'll see +45 bhp and +75 lbs/ft of torque, the group buy is only on the older ME7 and EDC15 type ECU's, the newer EDC16 ECU's as on yours I currently do at £295 but will do at £250 in the group buy

[happychappy]

Hi, I've recently got a bug with the 1.8 turbo engine and from my understanding these are 150bhp? What is the power increase and torque increase on the remap, and cost? Is fuel consumption adversely affected?
Also, the bug has automatic transmission- silly question, but would this make a difference?

Based in Essex so not too far.

[Funk]

Yes! I have a rough guide I knocked up for another forum overseas that wanted the same, gave me the idea to offer it here!

1.6 +8bhp
1.8NA +10bhp
1.8T cable throttle +45-50bhp
1.8T >99 Drive by wire with K03S instead of K03(varies widely) +50-60bhp
2.0 +12bhp
2.3 +16bhp
2.8 +15bhp
3.2 +15bhp

First page of this thread, John wrote this.

[John@DNA]

On the Autos I bring the power in slightly different :)

[happychappy]

Ok, so the power is brought in differently. I'm not technically minded, so am I right in thinking it is more gentle than say, a sudden rush???? And the cost of this? Also, is the fuel consumption affected under normal driving?
I would like to know this as unfortunatley most of my time is stuck in traffic, so, when I get the opportunity to go, i really want to GO!

[John@DNA]

Ok, so the power is brought in differently. I'm not technically minded, so am I right in thinking it is more gentle than say, a sudden rush???? And the cost of this? Also, is the fuel consumption affected under normal driving?
I would like to know this as unfortunatley most of my time is stuck in traffic, so, when I get the opportunity to go, i really want to GO!

You'll still be seeing +50bhp at least, I'm doing this as an ongoing offer for the New Beetle forum for just £150 :)

Fuel consumption under normal driving is usually a tad better, especially with the auto for a variety of reasons

[happychappy]

Ok. Now I want some. Can I make an appointment please. I can do Saturdays only- does that pose a problem?

[John@DNA]

Ok. Now I want some. Can I make an appointment please. I can do Saturdays only- does that pose a problem?

No that's fine, can do this Saturday afternoon if you like?

[Dub-Diva]

Hi John

MrDiva is looking at buying a newbee, either a 1.8T or a v5 sport - The V5 sport he's looking at is a 2002 and has been "unmolested" (lol) and he would want it remapped. What extra power etc could he expect from a remap, and what price would you charge?






Oh yeah, and can 1.4S 16v Lupo's be remapped too? ;)

[John@DNA]

Hello :)

With the V5 sport you see between +15-18bhp and the little Lupe you can get +8-10bhp from, the group buy price I've left ongoing for now for the forum :)

[Dub-Diva]

Thanks, will let you know ;)

[Dub-Diva]

Ok, MrDiva was wondering how long it would take for you to re-map a v5 as we're quite a distance from you in Cambridgeshire.

I'm torn between the 1.4s 16v and the 1.7sdi Lupo's - how much extra poke can you put into a 1.7? lol

[Shamrockez]

Drop the car off with John, wander down to the Chinese Buffet place and by the time you've finished lunch, it'll be done! :D

[EcoWarrior]

Drop the car off with John, wander down to the Chinese Buffet place and by the time you've finished lunch, it'll be done! :D

sounding better all the time lol
ok stupid question alert : why does the Turbo get 50 extra gg's and the v5 only 18? :confused:

will book it in when we purchase it its first on my "to do list"

[John@DNA]

sounding better all the time lol
ok stupid question alert : why does the Turbo get 50 extra gg's and the v5 only 18? :confused:

will book it in when we purchase it its first on my "to do list"

with the normally aspirated engines eg the V5 to tune you can only alter the load/throttle, ignition timing and fuelling. With the turbocharged cars you have ignition timing, fuelling, boost control, torque control, target filling N75 control etc etc, Basically you have the extra possibilities allowed with the turbocharger to increase the volume of air available for the combustion mixture and most turbo's in VAG are used as low pressure applications for weight saving rather than performance. This leaves loads of headroom for improvements!

[dubster]

We'll start at 5 I guess, anymore can be added to that of course, how about £150 per car to ring in the new year?

Hi John

Can you tell me how much it would be this year please as I'm interested in having it done on my latest shape TDI Cab. Also, how long does it take and when are you free.

A couple of other questions - a friend of mine has had something similar done I believe on his Audi, called Revo (I think), is your service basically the same thing or is it just altering the boost and compression ?

Is there a chance that when I take the car into VW for servicing they can overwrite the remap etc ?

Thanks very much

Scott

[John@DNA]

Hi Scott,

For now the evvo discount I'm keeping the same. The revo is a pretty generic tune, I alter a lot more than they do, gives you much smoother delivery and better power, I do a lot of work for other tuning companies who chose our tuning over revo's which speaks volumes in itself :)

VW can always write over the remap with a service update, if they couldn't they'd know it's tuned, I could lock them out if it was required or I would just give you an update if they did, to be honest yours probably won't get an update though.

Cheers,

John

[dubster]

Sounds great. When can you fit me in ?

Just out of interest, what is the power gain ?

(though tbh I'm more interested in it being smoother / more economical than gaining loads of power. Just interested)

[neg.dubb]

John
Sorry to be a pain and I now you'll be getting deja vou by now, but:
Whats the diff between remap and chipping, I assume it achieves the same but is cheaper? you're quoting £150 group deal.
What's the effect on economy on the 1.8T?
Power increases you qouted vary, which one relates to the 07 1.8T

How long does the job take & where? I'm in Kent

- Sorry for all the questions.

[1958 Harry]

Hi John,

What sort of power boost can you get remapping a 55 plate Mini Cooper S? Is it better to upgrade the supercharger pulley etc then get it remapped?

Also what sort of cost would it be for a remap? :)

[Vee.Dubster]

Hi John,

What sort of power boost can you get remapping a 55 plate Mini Cooper S? Is it better to upgrade the supercharger pulley etc then get it remapped?

Also what sort of cost would it be for a remap? :)


Make sure you buy a box of spare clutches first :lol:

[dubster]

Make sure you buy a box of spare clutches first :lol:

That could be an expensive remap sesh then!

[John@DNA]

Sounds great. When can you fit me in ?

Just out of interest, what is the power gain ?

(though tbh I'm more interested in it being smoother / more economical than gaining loads of power. Just interested)

Which version is yours standard bhp? I am free next week currently. I can change the mapping however you need for power, economy or a mix of both.

[John@DNA]

John
Sorry to be a pain and I now you'll be getting deja vou by now, but:
Whats the diff between remap and chipping, I assume it achieves the same but is cheaper? you're quoting £150 group deal.
What's the effect on economy on the 1.8T?
Power increases you qouted vary, which one relates to the 07 1.8T

How long does the job take & where? I'm in Kent

- Sorry for all the questions.


Remapping/chipping, kind of the same thing and the terms are used widely to generalise rewriting the OEM software for a performance improvement.
Economy usually improves by 4-5mpg on these.
Power improvement would be around +65bhp on that one.
It would take 2-3 hours to complete and I'm in Stratford-upon-Avon.

Yes lots of questions to answer here in this thread but it's all good :)

[John@DNA]

Hi John,

What sort of power boost can you get remapping a 55 plate Mini Cooper S? Is it better to upgrade the supercharger pulley etc then get it remapped?

Also what sort of cost would it be for a remap? :)

Hiya the Mini Cooper S you see +10bhp with just the remap, if you change the pulley for a 17% reduction and the software you can see +40bhp improvement :)

[John@DNA]

Make sure you buy a box of spare clutches first :lol:

Some companies were having issues with clutches, I always keep stage one software to be kind to the standard clutch, I could however as a driver kill the standard clutch on a standard car! Further stage maps where we push harder I'd tell anyone if additional hardware was needed or I'd take into account any of the existing changes :)

[John@DNA]

That could be an expensive remap sesh then!

It can be an expensive session if you go to an unexperienced mapper or remap reseller, there are many bad ones out there, I admin the world forum for tuners and we see all sorts of crap tuning. I fix many cars a year poorly remapped by others!

[1958 Harry]

Make sure you buy a box of spare clutches first :lol:
It aint the clutches thats the problem on em! Its the ****ty DMF flywheels, and as its just (as in last week ;) ) had a new flywheel and clutch release bearing fitted under warranty I would guess it'll be OK for a while.

I thinki it'll have to be a 17% Pulley and a remap then, is it worth changing to the Iridium plugs people keep telling me about as well?

[John@DNA]

It aint the clutches thats the problem on em! Its the ****ty DMF flywheels, and as its just (as in last week ;) ) had a new flywheel and clutch release bearing fitted under warranty I would guess it'll be OK for a while.

I thinki it'll have to be a 17% Pulley and a remap then, is it worth changing to the Iridium plugs people keep telling me about as well?

Iridium plugs rock :)

[Vee.Dubster]

Some companies were having issues with clutches, I always keep stage one software to be kind to the standard clutch, I could however as a driver kill the standard clutch on a standard car! Further stage maps where we push harder I'd tell anyone if additional hardware was needed or I'd take into account any of the existing changes :)

I was only joking about the clutch :)

Saying that my TDi NB is about ready for a new one, but I have done nearly 50K miles since you remapped it, so I'm tempted to have a Sachs uprated clutch unit, then come and see you about stage two?

[John@DNA]

I was only joking about the clutch :)

Saying that my TDi NB is about ready for a new one, but I have done nearly 50K miles since you remapped it, so I'm tempted to have a Sachs uprated clutch unit, then come and see you about stage two?

On my own cars when I was younger I had a bad habit from motocross of using the clutch to spool the turbo, I used to eat clutches on standard cars!

If you uprate the clutch on any of the VAG diesels you can really go to town on the increase in torque low down! I need to change my own in the Golf as it's going to get a hybrid turbo and I'll be pushing it to 250 bhp and 400 lbs//ft of torque :)

[Vee.Dubster]

On my own cars when I was younger I had a bad habit from motocross of using the clutch to spool the turbo, I used to eat clutches on standard cars!

If you uprate the clutch on any of the VAG diesels you can really go to town on the increase in torque low down! I need to change my own in the Golf as it's going to get a hybrid turbo and I'll be pushing it to 250 bhp and 400 lbs//ft of torque :)

A northern tuning specialist in Chesterfield has suggested I have a PD130 turbo and injectors fitted to my PD100 New Beetle, and then a new remap should see around 180-190PS, but it won't be cheap :(

If I had the new clutch fitted ready, what would you expect to be able to with software alone?

[John@DNA]

A northern tuning specialist in Chesterfield has suggested I have a PD130 turbo and injectors fitted to my PD100 New Beetle, and then a new remap should see around 180-190PS, but it won't be cheap :(

If I had the new clutch fitted ready, what would you expect to be able to with software alone?

There is a huge variety of options, if you're going to change the turbo you might as well put the PD150 unit on though, that would be the sensible OEM upgrade, after that you can make it hybrid. You'd want to upgrade the intercooler, on a budget the PD150 is s a good size, I do the software for a lot of the upgrades. One of the tuners I supply is running a PD100 Sharan with a PD150 turbo and he's running 195bhp

[dubster]

Which version is yours standard bhp? I am free next week currently. I can change the mapping however you need for power, economy or a mix of both.

Do you do weekends at all ? I can wait a while if so and youre booked up for a while. I cant really take any time off work atm with it being so close after Xmas.

erm, which version? Dunno, how can I tell ? Its a 2005 (2006 shape) TDI. What am I looking for? (sorry for being a bit clueless here!)

I'd like a mix of both really. I do a lot of motorway driving, about 90 miles a day to and from work, but it would be nice if the car was smoother n nippier at accelerating. Top end doesnt interest me.

[John@DNA]

Do you do weekends at all ? I can wait a while if so and youre booked up for a while. I cant really take any time off work atm with it being so close after Xmas.

erm, which version? Dunno, how can I tell ? Its a 2005 (2006 shape) TDI. What am I looking for? (sorry for being a bit clueless here!)

I'd like a mix of both really. I do a lot of motorway driving, about 90 miles a day to and from work, but it would be nice if the car was smoother n nippier at accelerating. Top end doesnt interest me.

Sounds like it'll be the 105 bhp, I'll know when I read it, we'll be looking to get around 140+ bhp out of this, I can do Saturdays too no problem

[dubster]

Sounds like it'll be the 105 bhp, I'll know when I read it, we'll be looking to get around 140+ bhp out of this, I can do Saturdays too no problem

Brilliant.

Let me know which Saturday you want me in.

Only one I can't do in the near future is the 24th.

Thanks John.

[John@DNA]

17th of Jan is good for me!

[dubster]

17th of Jan is good for me!

Cool. Book me in then!

Should I call? Is there anything you need from me before then etc?

[John@DNA]

No just turn up, drop me a mail at j.robins@dnatuning.com for directions etc! :)

[S50FYJ]

cud be extremely interested in this offer, but will it be worth while on a standard 2.0 petrol engine? what gains cud we expect n is there any way of improving it further?

[John@DNA]

Hi, yeah there are gains in the 2.0, with fuel, timing and throttle mapping you can see on my reviews page the thoughts of the owners instead of me selling it :)

http://www.dnatuning.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=19&Itemid=38

[neg.dubb]

Remapping/chipping, kind of the same thing and the terms are used widely to generalise rewriting the OEM software for a performance improvement.
Economy usually improves by 4-5mpg on these.
Power improvement would be around +65bhp on that one.
It would take 2-3 hours to complete and I'm in Stratford-upon-Avon.

Yes lots of questions to answer here in this thread but it's all good :)

[neg.dubb]

John
Forgot to confirm, please include my 1.8T in the group buy for a remap.
I'll contact you soon to make a booking.

Cheers.

[John@DNA]

John
Forgot to confirm, please include my 1.8T in the group buy for a remap.
I'll contact you soon to make a booking.

Cheers.


My pleasure, speak soon :)

[dubster]

w000t. Mine gets transformed tmrw. hurrah

John - could you pm me your telephone number in case I get lost please ?

ta!

[John@DNA]

pm'd :)

[n_o_b]

Dr John,

Im so glad this offer is still on. Could i please add my bug to the list for a remap? i've got a 2002 1.8T.

I'll contact you soon to get booked in, i've got to try and get my door sorted after someone barrelled it the other week before i can come to see you.

Do you have any spaces next monday or tuesday? (2nd or 4rd of Feb)

Cheers

Rich

[John@DNA]

2nd of Feb would be good for me if it's good for you? :)

[n_o_b]

2nd of Feb is good for me, got the car booked in the garage on tues 3rd to sort the door out (hopefully) :(

So what time is best and where are you? I think i'm doing a late shift on the sunday eve so nothing too early on monday please :D